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 Re: Права върху кадър? Кражба?
Автор: cicomanco   
Дата:   29-04-13 08:38

Мартинели са си отколешни измекярски неплащачи! Бая народ са завлекли и едва ли ще видиш пари от тях, освен ако не разполагаш с ресурс да ги понастъпиш здраво!

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 Re: Права върху кадър? Кражба?
Автор: pmartinov   
Дата:   29-04-13 11:03

Качествените стоки нямат нужда от реклама.

Пари се правят от ментета...

Храна ,дрехи,техника.

От ментета се правят много повече пари от колкото от качествени стоки.

Хората искат най-евтиното и го получават...

Друг е въпроса ,че като купиш три ментета излиза по-скъпо от оригинала.


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 Re: Права върху кадър? Кражба?
Автор: marchello   
Дата:   29-04-13 13:18

пичове, това е стара тема и риших да я използвам защото и мене окрадоха. [smilie5] После реших да махна поста и без много приказки да действам [smilie6]
ако има развитие, ще споделям. [smilie21]

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 Re: Права върху кадър? Кражба?
Автор: karan4o   
Дата:   29-04-13 14:05

Действай, действай, че това, което беше написал и показал е направо уникално!!!
Струва си да ги осъдиш, ама както си трябва!!!
[smilie24] [smilie24] [smilie24]

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 Re: Права върху кадър? Кражба?
Автор: Alex_Stand   
Дата:   29-04-13 15:35

Те родните Дезигнери са непобедими :


https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/67142_1336779638262_3230402_n.jpg





https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/297408_1575774130880_1504708748_n.jpg




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 Re: Права върху кадър? Кражба?
Автор: marchello   
Дата:   30-04-13 23:30

Добре, няколко неща станаха ясни в хода на личното ми разследване:
медията е ползвала любителско клипче от youtube, в което фигурира моя кадър.
Накрая на предаването пише: Използвани са кадри от youtube.com

[smilie9]
[smilie8]

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 Re: Права върху кадър? Кражба?
Автор: victory13   
Дата:   30-04-13 23:48

а ясно... начи няма ми бъркат в хладилника ако изрично упомена че им гледам филмите като ползвам замунда [cool]

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 Re: Права върху кадър? Кражба?
Автор: MikeDimit   
Дата:   02-05-13 14:54

А по белия свят:

UK.Gov passes Instagram Act: All your pics belong to everyone now
Everyone = Silicon Valley ad platforms tech companies

By Andrew Orlowski

Have you ever uploaded a photo to Facebook, Instagram or Flickr?

If so, you'll probably want to read this, because the rules on who can exploit your work have now changed radically, overnight.

Amateur and professional illustrators and photographers alike will find themselves ensnared by the changes, the result of lobbying by Silicon Valley and radical bureaucrats and academics. The changes are enacted in the sprawling Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Act which received Royal Assent last week, and it marks a huge shift in power away from citizens and towards large US corporations.

How so? Previously, and in most of the world today, ownership of your creation is automatic, and legally considered to be an individual's property. That's enshrined in the Berne Convention and other international treaties, where it's considered to be a basic human right. What this means in practice is that you can go after somebody who exploits it without your permission - even if pursuing them is cumbersome and expensive.

The UK coalition government's new law reverses this human right. When last year Instagram attempted to do something similar, it met a furious backlash. But the Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Act has sailed through without most amateurs or semi-professionals even realising the consequences.

The Act contains changes to UK copyright law which permit the commercial exploitation of images where information identifying the owner is missing, so-called "orphan works", by placing the work into what's known as "extended collective licensing" schemes. Since most digital images on the internet today are orphans - the metadata is missing or has been stripped by a large organisation - millions of photographs and illustrations are swept into such schemes.

For the first time anywhere in the world, the Act will permit the widespread commercial exploitation of unidentified work - the user only needs to perform a "diligent search". But since this is likely to come up with a blank, they can proceed with impunity. The Act states that a user of a work can act as if they are the owner of the work (which should be you) if they're given permission to do so by the Secretary of State and are acting as a regulated body.

The Act also fails to prohibit sub-licensing, meaning that once somebody has your work, they can wholesale it. This gives the green light to a new content-scraping industry, an industry that doesn't have to pay the originator a penny. Such is the consequence of "rebalancing copyright", in reality.

What now?
Quite what happens next is not clear, because the Act is merely enabling legislation - the nitty gritty will come in the form of statutory instruments, to be tabled later in the year. Parliament has not voted down a statutory instrument since 1979, so the political process is probably now a formality.

In practice, you'll have two stark choices to prevent being ripped off: remove your work from the internet entirely, or opt-out by registering it. And registration will be on a work-by-work basis.

"People can now use stuff without your permission," explained photo rights campaigner Paul Ellis. "To stop that you have to register your work in a registry - but registering stuff is an activity that costs you time and money. So what was your property by default will only remain yours if you take active steps, and absorb the costs, if it is formally registered to you as the owner."

And right now, Ellis says, there's only one registry, PLUS [1]. Photographers, including David Bailey [2], condemned the Coalition for rushing through the legislation before other registries - such as the Copyright Hub - could sort themselves out.

"The mass of the public will never realise they've been robbed," thinks Ellis. The radical free-our-information bureaucrats at the Intellectual Property Office had already attempted to smuggle orphan works rules through via the Digital Economy Act in 2010, but were rebuffed. Thanks to a Google-friendly Conservative-led administration, they've now triumphed.

Three other consequences appear possible.

One is a barrage of litigation from UK creators - and overseas owners who find their work Hoovered into extended collective licensing programs. International treaties allow a country to be ostracised and punished. The threat has already been made clear from US writers and photographers, who've promised "a firestorm [3]". Reciprocal royalty arrangements can also be suspended, on the basis of "if you steal our stuff, UK, we won't pay you". In addition, a judicial review, based on the premise that the Act gives Minister unconstitutional power over the disposal of private property [4], is not out of the question.

Secondly, the disappearance of useful material from the internet is likely to accelerate - the exact opposite of what supporters wish for. We recently highlighted the case of an aerial photographer who's moving work outside the UK, and we've heard of several who are taking their photos away from the web, and into lockers. The internet is poorer without a diverse creative economy - because creators need legal certainty of property rights.

And finally, there's the macroeconomic consequences for the UK economy.

The notorious 'Google Review' chaired by Ian Hargreaves failed to undertake adequate impact assessments, a giveaway that even the most rabid "copyright reformers" recognise there isn't an economic case to be made for taking everyone's stuff and giving it away.

"There's value in works, and if anybody can exploit them except the person who creates them, then value is transferred to the exploiter," explains Ellis. "This is a massive value transfer out of the UK economy to US tech companies."

Where it will remain, he thinks, because UK tech/media companies - should they appear - almost invariably become US-owned.

Copyright "reformers" of course rarely like to talk about such unpleasant matters - and will steer the conversation away from economic consequences as rapidly as possible. Indeed, the they generally talk using Orwellian euphemisms - like "liberalising" or "rebalancing" copyright. It's rarely presented as an individual's ability to go to market being removed. This is what "copyright reform" looks like in practice.

"It's corporate capitalism," says Ellis. "Ideally you want to empower individuals to trade, and keep the proceeds of their trade. The UK has just lost that."

So while the Twitterati and intelligentsia were ranting away about "Big Content", we've just lost the ability to sell our own content. In other words, you've just been royally f***ed. ®

Links
http://plus.useplus.org/PLUSnews/2/PLUS_Registry.htm
http://thebppa.wordpress.com/2013/04...ley-weighs-in/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11...phers_artists/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01...dicial_review/

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 Re: Права върху кадър? Кражба?
Автор: e-mil   
Дата:   02-05-13 15:02

"медията е ползвала любителско клипче от youtube, в което фигурира моя кадър.
Накрая на предаването пише: Използвани са кадри от youtube.com"


То това, че пишат откъде са кадрите не прави употребата им легална. YouTube ясно декларира, че нямат право да ползват свалени материали оттам.
"You shall not download any Content unless you see a “download” or similar link displayed by YouTube on the Service for that Content. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, or otherwise exploit any Content for any other purposes without the prior written consent of YouTube or the respective licensors of the Content."

Теоретически пак можеш да ги обуеш. Намираш автора на клипа и сключваш споразумение с него, че му даваш снимката за ползване изключително само в този клип и никъде другаде. После даваш под съд медията, затова че я е откраднала. Споразумението ти е нужно, за да не може медията да плати направо на автора на клипа и да се налага да съдиш него. [smile]


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